Dont know if it helps,but I have an 04 P4,it came with a detwiler from the factory that I thought was a 6 inch,but it is an 8.had a slide master 8 inch hanging on the back while the detwiler was sent back to factory to be updated with new pump,side plates etc.the slide master 8 inch has quite a bit more setback than a detwiler.the detwiler also has 6 bolt pattern,and I am really pleased with the detwiler.it had a bad rap deservedly so,but the new updated unit is sweet.