2017 Sabre w/ 2018 ProXS 175 Engine height Question

[Bass Cat Boats]

Nobody can really answer that question, How you carry your stuff, where, and how you’ve balanced the load matters. As well, every 24 Tempest is a bit different.Slowly bump the engine up 1/4” and run it a few times. Wheel tight to turn or easy? Water pressure at WOT good. Take it up a little more. Only evaluate with a full fishing load, Wells full, and partner. When you notice wheel torque or a drop in water pressure – take it back down a little. Then you’ve found the sweet spot for you.

[Bass Cat Boats]

It sounds like your close after some time learning the characteristics of the Sabre FTD and your set up. Each one is a little unique and given time you may have some left. The 18’ to 19’ size class is going to be interesting as Mercury announces the next generation of engines and there is going to be a variety spread to meet every need. This is the most compressed segment. Offerings in aluminum are eating a way 18’ fiberglass bass boat business and it’s a fraction of what it was even two (2) years ago. This fiberglass segment is going to change with whats coming down the pipe. It going to depend on how consumers feel about what’s being offered.

[tidwemd]

Bass Cat Boats wrote:It sounds like your close after some time learning the characteristics of the Sabre FTD and your set up. Each one is a little unique and given time you may have some left. The 18’ to 19’ size class is going to be interesting as Mercury announces the next generation of engines and there is going to be a variety spread to meet every need. This is the most compressed segment. Offerings in aluminum are eating a way 18’ fiberglass bass boat business and it’s a fraction of what it was even two (2) years ago. This fiberglass segment is going to change with whats coming down the pipe. It going to depend on how consumers feel about what’s being offered. I ran a 17’4” Javelin w/150 for 17 years (I bought it new in 2000). I traded it for an aluminum 18’5” w/115 in2017. I wasn’t happy. The Sabre is not a wholelot bigger but it’s laid out better than the previous two. And it’s still not too big for me to put it into a couple of the “electric only” lakes that are 10 minutes from my house. Wind drift, stability, and ride are just not (for me at least) comparable for fiberglass to aluminum. To me the fishing “platform” for my new boat is much more user friendly than the aluminum boat I had. The old Javelins only real failings were it was was short on front deck space and storage. I found out, (at least for me), the maintenance benefits of the aluminum boat just didnt offset the performance and fishing platform.I think a lot of folks that go from a midsize fibreglass boat to an aluminum will regret their choice after a short time. YMMV.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[muddywaters]

I did the aluminum to glass flip flop and found myself back in a glass boat really quick. I had a 2016 sabre with 175 pro xs and ran the 24 tempest plus prop on it, I had finally tweaked it out to its fullest potential at around 69.4 mph. 1/2 tank of gas, full live wells and my equipment. A buddy of mine has the same boat and he is running a 25 tempest and he has seen 72 mph with his. I had to put water scoops on mine to keep water pressure at the height I was running the plate at.

[Wheelman]

I went from dads Pantera Classic, to an aluminum Triton and now back to Sabre FTD. You definitely get what you pay for with the affordability of the aluminum boat, my only problem is the 60hp 4-stroke Mercury that was trouble free on the old boat hasnt been the case with the 150hp 4-stroke on the new Basscat. Where are you at on the jackplate currently, flush? And how high is your rooster tail when trimmed out at top speed?

[Bass Cat Boats]

Wheelman wrote:I went from dads Pantera Classic, to an aluminum Triton and now back to Sabre FTD. You definitely get what you pay for with the affordability of the aluminum boat, my only problem is the 60hp 4-stroke Mercury that was trouble free on the old boat hasnt been the case with the 150hp 4-stroke on the new Basscat. Where are you at on the jackplate currently, flush? And how high is your rooster tail when trimmed out at top speed?Jackplate looks about 3/8″ high from flush. Ill go back out this weekend and check rooster tail height.

[Bass Cat Boats]

The 150 four stroke engine has been extremely trouble free in both major brands. If your having troubles it’s rare.

[Midnight Rider]

If you want the last bit of mph out of the Sabre, youre going to have to drive it once it starts chine walking. You can mess with the height until you either gain rpm with no increase in speed, or start losing water pressure…that is IF it is trimmed out properly with no rooster tail higher than the engine cowling. Just a slight bit of torque on the wheel at full speed and trim. If its running 68mph before starting to chine, itll run faster when you learn to balance the boat on the pad to keep the chine from ever happening. The Sabre is a hot rod. It also runs differently depending on how you load it. Keep the light stuff (as much as possible) in the rear front deck compartment (like hard baits), life jackets, ropes and other light stuff in the most forward front deck compartment. With the rod holders, you can get about 15 rods in the port side rod locker, if you put some of them on the bottom with the tips run under the front rod tubes. I use rod sleeves for all my rods as it helps getting them in and out without hanging up.

[Wheelman]

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but top speed is ultimately limited by aerodynamic and hydrodynamic drag. So if for simplicity sake we say a 150hp outboard (I know theyre not all equal) will push a Sabre to 65mph and 175hp will push a Sabre to 70mph that is because the extra 25hp is overcoming the aerodynamic drag from going 5 mph. The hydrodynamic drag from the amount of hull in the water I assume is about the same at 65 for the 150 and 70 for the 175, therefore at 65 mph with the 175 its actually easier to drive with more hull in the water. The chine doesnt start till day 68 as does the chine with 150 starts at 63 and you have to drive it for the last 2 mph. Then you jump to the P2 with a 200 which does 75mph and it doesnt start chine walking till youre at an even faster speed than the Sabre because when its doing 6X mph theres more hull in the water and its not trying to teeter on the final tunnel pad.

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