I have not pulled mine with either of those, but have pulled it with the Honda Ridgeline and it pulled just fine. Just to be sure I took my Puma and had it weighed at the certified scales at the local feed mill, full tournament load and full tanks of gas it was 4208.5lbs. The Ridgeline is rated for 5,000 and the Pilot for 4,500. I will have a 2009 of either of those soon. 23Hwy, 17City. Better than my F150, 18/13. I will add a second set of brakes on the trailer however. A lot of guys run the Chevys at work towing and all have had transmission porblems at 80 – 90K. Good luck.