Keep after them Ted, and allow yourself to be part of the solution. What i mean is simply to make yourself and members of your group available to help with projects, and include your biologist in your efforts. Ive worked with the AGFC for a number of years now, and made many friends in the agency. Some also cringe when they see me attending a meeting, but at they know where i stand, and ive also had their back a few times too. So my best advice is to become informed and knowledgeable about the issues, and dont stop ! Stay on course and the lakes will ge thte attention they deserve. D.Last edited by dbasketman on October 18th, 2007, 6:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.