All good info and thanks so much! After reading this I know what the smart choice is, a dang deep v to keep them boys from falling out, lol. My 5 year old is a bull so it would be like have 10 people in a Margay, lol. Anyone know of any deep v AL boats that are any good? I know nothing about these type of boats but they do look comfortable for drowning minners with the wife and boys and they will actually fish with me alot so its the sensible thing to do at this point in life. Ill have to get a sabre later for my personal use and say no kids allowed, lol.ThanksDanny