Synthetic 4 Stroke Oil?

[MeanV2]

I will have Mercury 150HP 4 Stroke on my new Sabre and I want to use a full synthetic in it. The Mercury Oil I believe is only available in a semi-synthetic. Does anyone have a 4 Stroke they use full synthetic in or know someone that does? Thinking maybe Alisyn oil or Mobil 1 I know a lot of racers use it. I have used Mobil 1 in the last 5 pickups I have owned as well as my 3 Harleys. I was using Mobil 1 synthetic in my Harley before Harley started marketing synthetic. The Harley mechanic tried to talk me out of it but I told him put it in or I will find someone who will. A couple years later Harley started marketing the synthetic and same mechanic was singing the praises for it! LOL!!Dan

[Flyswatter]

MeanV2 wrote:I will have Mercury 150HP 4 Stroke on my new Sabre and I want to use a full synthetic in it. The Mercury Oil I believe is only available in a semi-synthetic. Does anyone have a 4 Stroke they use full synthetic in or know someone that does? Thinking maybe Alisyn oil or Mobil 1 I know a lot of racers use it. I have used Mobil 1 in the last 5 pickups I have owned as well as my 3 Harleys. I was using Mobil 1 synthetic in my Harley before Harley started marketing synthetic. The Harley mechanic tried to talk me out of it but I told him put it in or I will find someone who will. A couple years later Harley started marketing the synthetic and same mechanic was singing the praises for it! LOL!!DanDan, that is awesome you getting Merc 150 Fourstroke on your SabreFTD. You are ahead of the curve IMO and gonna love that setup on your boat. I think you made a wise decision. No oil to add, thats gonna save you some coin over a season and no mess. From my experience there is a Osmosis affect with oil tanks that does dirty the outside tank and bilge area. Nothing bad but like a film. You wont have that with your four stroke. Also, performance is going to be right there with two strokes. I cant comment on reliability of the technology since its release. Im sure solid overall and no worse then established two strokes. Two strokes still break with LU and PH failures. Mechanical things break and why we have warranties so no worries there. Dont buy into the negative internet chatter on fourstorke bass boats. Totally unfounded vs two stroke warranty claims. Also, since you do not have a space eating oil tank that would be a great place to store a back up prop. That is a storage positive for the SabreFTD. That motor is going to be whisper quiet. People cant appreciate that until you have it on your boat. Also, no oil/gas leaking into the water like some two strokes. Other then that I like four strokes. Congrats!Last edited by Flyswatter on December 11th, 2013, 1:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.

[MeanV2]

Tom, Sherm told me there was very little performance lost on the Merc 150HP 4 Stroke versus the Optimax Pro XS. His words “That is a Hot little motor” After I traded my boat in on the Sabre I started fishing with a friend who has a Lund 1775 Impact with a 90HP Merc 4 Stroke and it impressed me. After talking to Sherm and asking guys on here plus fishing with a 4 Stroke a few times my mind was made up by the time I put my order in. I think I will be very Happy with the Merc 4 Stroke.Dan

[mike dominick]

I used the Yamaha synthetic in my 200 SHO, I would look at it and see if its the same weight/grade as what the Merc needs.

[Dwayne]

Synthetic oil It boggles me with the myths hype and bs against synthetic oils. I wont muddy waters with my P.O.V. so heres what I pass on to my students so they can make up their own minds. They engage in some open research and then they debate the pros and cons. I was introduced to the benefits and operational necessity of synthetic oil when I became an aircraft mechanic in the Canadian Air Force. Not getting into the brand debate but a good synthetic oil allows you to use a fine filter and that alone promotes a cleaner engine. Since We have a short open water season here mid April to November, I change my oil in Octoberish and swap the oil filter again in the end of June just before bass season starts. Synthetic oil doesnt break down like convenstional oil does but like all oil products switching around may result in an adverse reaction from incompatible ingredients. Clear as mud Dwayne Please excuse my spelling .. new cell phone little buttons and big meat hooks for fingers.Practice Angling CPRCatchPictureRelease2010 PIV 200SHO

[MeanV2]

Id Love to hear more! Another thing I hear from a lot of reputable mechanics is not to use Synthetic oil in something until it gets well broken in? What? I think GM ships out new Corvettes and some Cadillacs filled with Mobil 1. Do you think GM would do that if an engine would not break in with Synthetic? I know the Mercury 4 Stroke oil is 25W-40 and only a synthetic blend, not full synthetic and $10 a quart! Give me a break. I am not sure if running 15W-50 Mobil 1 racing oil would be kosher or not. I was hoping to hear from someone who has some experience with this but I realize not too many 4 strokes out there on Bass Cats, and a lot of guys put a cheaper oil in instead of using a Full Synthetic. Oil that does not break down with heat is a no brainer IMO.DanDwayne wrote:Synthetic oilIt boggles me with the myths hype and bs against synthetic oils. I wont muddy waters with my P.O.V. so heres what I pass on to my students so they can make up their own minds. They engage in some open research and then they debate the pros and cons.I was introduced to the benefits and operational necessity of synthetic oil when I became an aircraft mechanic in the Canadian Air Force.Not getting into the brand debate but a good synthetic oil allows you to use a fine filter and that alone promotes a cleaner engine.Since We have a short open water season here mid April to November, I change my oil in Octoberish and swap the oil filter again in the end of June just before bass season starts.Synthetic oil doesnt break down like convenstional oil does but like all oil products switching around may result in an adverse reaction from incompatible ingredients.Clear as mudDwaynePlease excuse my spelling .. new cell phone little buttons and big meat hooks for fingers.

[pops77s]

I am a huge advocate for the use of a full synthetic oil. There are five different types of oil, type I through type III are conventional oils. The difference is in the way they are refined, keep in mind the U.S. recognizes the type III as a synthetic oil even though is is a conventional oil, though highly refined and is still a decent oil. This is what most of the major oil companies utilize as the base stock in their synthetic oil, it has a much larger profit margine. There are a few out there that utilize a type IV true synthetic base oil. In my opinion the type IV is the one you will want to concentrate on for a marine application. The other is a type V synthetic oil which is derived from plants, another very good lubricant when used properly. The type V oils do not do well in a moist environment. I personally would look at AMSOIL, Red Line, or Mobil 1 products. They are type IV synthetic base stock oils that are readily available. You will always hear the push back for using something other than the OEM recommended brand oil.BrianBrianHAWG Hunter2013 BassCat Eyra2013 Mercury 250 Pro XS Gen2 L/U

[unclemike]

Amsoil does make a Marine 4 stroke Synthetic in 10W30. If I had a 4 stroke, I would be using it. Period!………..Mike

[MeanV2]

Mike, The oil Merc markets as semi-synthetic is 25w-40. Do you think the 10w-30 would be an issue?Danunclemike wrote:Amsoil does make a Marine 4 stroke Synthetic in 10W30. If I had a 4 stroke, I would be using it. Period!………..Mike

[pops77s]

They also have it in the 10W40.BrianBrianHAWG Hunter2013 BassCat Eyra2013 Mercury 250 Pro XS Gen2 L/U

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