New Pantera Classic

[rfhbrando]

I didn’t notice any excessive torque in the steering then again it was mostly running in straight lines without steering much. Something I’ll pay more attention to next time out. Your right about not needing a lot of trim. At WOT I do not need to trim up very much to get to 6000 RPM. The side spray looked about right with how far back it was while at WOT and trimmed up, no roostertail or anything. I haven’t looked too closely at motor height yet, looks like from the factory the jackplate is at its null position.

 

[Cajunhunter67]

I am not familiar with the Classic set up with the 150. At 6000 RPM your right on the rev limiter. It may be needing a 24 Fury 3. Or just have the prop worked. I do believe there is more speed to be had with the 150. Keep your JP movements to 1/4 in movements. Mark your starting point.

If your moving it up remember to watch your water pressure as you trim.

BTW, thats a fine looking Classic!!

[rfhbrando]

Update. After running my new classic with the 150 for a half dozen times with the 23p Fury it came with, it became pretty obvious the prop was all wrong for this rig. I was all over the rev limiter way too early. Tried to lower the motor to about 1 inch below flush on the jack plate and still pushing 6100. The 23p fury cannot get the boat out of the water onto the pad, just not enough lift at all. Max speed with that setup was 50 mph.

I ended up trying out a 24p 4 blade fury today with the jack plate set back to flush (as it was from factory). Hole shot was still great, unnoticeable difference from the other prop. With the 24p 4 blade it was immediately noticed how much more lift there was, putting the boat on the very back of the pad very quickly. With this setup, I was able to get it to 58.2 mph at 6000 rpm. With this setup, the only thing I’ve noticed in the negative category is that there is a small rooster tail at WOT. Maybe 1 foot above the cowl of the motor at WOT. So, maybe there is some more efficiency to be had with motor height. Doing the math, with the 150 pro xs 4 stroke at 6000 rpm, 2.08 gear ratio, 24p it looks like its currently running about 11% slip at the 58.2 mph.

So, it is getting there. I figured when I picked this boat up that it would be around a 60 mph boat. It is still impressive the hole shot that 150 provides, and it gets on pad quickly now, and has great mid range cruise on plane. Any thoughts on how to get the last little bit of setup dialed in would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

[Cajunhunter67]

Looks like your getting it dialed in!! I knew bumping up a pitch would help. A little JP adjustment will probably bring the rooster tail down and possibly a bit more speed. Keep in mind, a 24 Fury 3 would more than likely give you the 60+ mph your wanting. You would lose the low speed bow lift with the 3 blade, though it can be tuned to fix that by Ronnie Gilbert.

My 24 Fury 3 will run 3 mph faster than my 24 Fury 4 on my 2016 PII.

[rfhbrando]

I’m alright with losing a little top end in return for lower speed lift and especially rough water handling. I primarily fish lake erie and it gets unpredictable at times.

I was told by the factory that this boat with a 2 stroke 150 pro xs did 60 but the gear ratio on those motors were more favorable for speed to my knowledge than the new 4 stroke platform.

 

Either way, I have no complaints. Outside of top speed, I see no performance difference that makes it feel like it’s a 150 back there.

[Bass Cat Boats]

The factory was very accurate in the gearcase variance.

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